I got this cool bracelet recently. It’s made with part of an old globe. I bought it both because I like maps and because it has Thailand, Cambodia, and Laos on it, and we took a trip there last year.
Little did I know when I bought it, the bracelet also contains a geography mystery. Towards the top, there’s a little sliver of pink between Mongolia and Russia (or more likely, the USSR), and I don’t know what it is. Its name seems to end in “nu,” and I think it’s currently in Russia, but it might be part of Mongolia. It’s too far east to be Kazakhstan.
Here are some facts that may be pertinent:
- Myanmar is called Burma, so the globe is probably from before 1989. (Which means that the yellow country at the top is probably the USSR.)
- Thailand is called Thailand, so the globe is probably from between 1939 and 1945 or after 1949.
- I can just barely see a border on the western part of China, just north of Burma. I believe this means Tibet is in a separate color from China, so the globe is probably from before 1951.
- The Gulf of Thailand is called the Gulf of Siam. I’m not sure what that tells me about the date of the globe.
- I can’t tell enough about the Laos-Vietnam border for that to help me, but maybe someone else can.
- The Chinese city names that I can read are spelled Kiuchwan, Lanchow, Chengtu, Kumming, and Mengtze.
- Xiongnu are Tannu Uriankhai are both historic names from the region, but neither one was in use after 1921.
So I have three questions. First: what is that region? Would English language cartographers have used the name Tannu Uriankhai that late?
Second: can we narrow down a likely date for this globe?
Third: is there a good reference somewhere for the history of place names? I feel like it shouldn’t be that hard to learn when English language cartographers would have called the Gulf of Thailand the Gulf of Siam, but I couldn’t find it easily.
Looks like Tannu Tuva — see a 1939 map and wikipedia
Thanks. It’s interesting that only Mongolia and the USSR recognized it, but some US globes and maps had it. I guess the combination of Tannu Tuva and Thailand means the globe was likely produced between 1939 and 1944.
I also just noticed that the border between Laos and Vietnam is not outlined in red like the borders between other countries, so I think they might have been subdivisions of French Indochina on the map. That also supports the globe being from before 1945.
Don’t forget the Richard Fenyman connection: http://www.fotuva.org/